Help for mask and subfolder creation

[Aschente]

Hi all,

I found out about SongKong & Jaikoz recently while trying to find a software to help renaming my growing music folder. Honestly prefer Jaikoz because we can better see what it is doing.
It all seems perfect for my needs, i mean, way too much even but who knows i may need more options later on… But before buying anything i tried to write my own template/mask for both tracks and folders.
Here are a couple questions…

1st, how can i make it so if in the below there is no title key or folder catalog, it doesn’t even show the "[ ]’ as well as what’s inside ?

File masking :

TrackNo. Artist(s) - Title [Key]

ifnotempty(trackno,'. ')
+ ifnotempty(artist,' - ')
+ title
+ ifnotempty(" [" + toTitleCase(key), "]")

Subfolder masking :

[CatalogNo] (Year) AlbumArtist(s) - Album [AUDIOFORMAT]

ifnotempty("[" + toUpperCase(catalogno), "] ")
+ ifnotempty("(" +albumyear, ") ")
+ ifnotempty(albumartists,' - ')
+ title
+ " [" + toUpperCase(audioformat) + "]"

2ndly, how do i try the newly created subfolder script ? Whatever i try, scripts will always delete pre-existing subfolder but never create new ones ?

You can see exemples of the errors in the attached picture.

• First track will not get renamed despite all metadata present ?
• Key brackets will be shown even if no key data is present (i guess it would do the same for subfolders, if there was no catalog found)
• Subfolders deleted but nothing newly created.

Many thanks for your help !

[Aschente]

Okay… I think i’m starting to get it. I’m now able to get the sub folder. But then my issue with the brackets remaining when there is no data (the [key] in the filename mask being the most obvious one). Any idea how to include it correctly in the “if” function ? And how can i get the YEAR only, not full date ?

My function became (essentially included all previous subfolder masking into the 1rst argument of the file masking… the magic trick being the ‘/’ as a 2nd argument… probably very ugly but it almost kinda works so far):

ifnotempty("[" + toUpperCase(catalogno) + "] " + ifnotempty("(" +albumyear, ") ") + ifnotempty(albumartists,' - ') + title + " [" + toUpperCase(audioformat) + "]", '/')
+ ifnotempty(trackno,'. ')
+ ifnotempty(artist,' - ')
+ title
+ ifnotempty(" [" + toTitleCase(key), "]")

Moreover, i was wondering. How does the program choose the metadata it will take ? Per exemple in the image below, you can see in red 2 different albums. After running the data grabber, for some reason the tracks got divided into different releases of the same album, with different dates etc… Is there any work around for this type of fuckerino ?

Thanks ! And sorry for my newby questions

[Aschente]

[paultaylor]

Hi, sounds like you are getting there. For the sake of clarity Im going to answer your basic questions in the original post first and then come back to a revised script.

@Aschente

2ndly, how do i try the newly created subfolder script ? Whatever i try, scripts will always delete pre-existing subfolder but never create new ones ?

We dont write separate subfolder and filename mask, we write a single mask that defines what subfolder and filename should be. We then apply that to file and when we run Correct Metadata from Filename it uses the result to the right of the last ‘/’ which is the folder separator, whereas Correct SubFolders from Metadata uses the result to the left of the last ‘/’. Note subfolder field usually holds multiple folders e.g folders representing albumartist/album is the most usual.

So your problem was there is no folder seperator in the mask so when you run Correct SubFolders from Metadata it assumes that the script just represents a filename and therefore subfolder is set to nothing.

First track will not get renamed despite all metadata present ?

In Preferences we define both a rename mask and a compilation rename mask, the compilation rename mask is used if the song has the Is Compilation field enabled. Now looking at that first track it looks like it is a compilation so Im guessing you dont have the compilation rename mask set to your new mask and that is why it doesnt change.

[paultaylor]

@Aschente

But then my issue with the brackets remaining when there is no data (the [key] in the filename mask being the most obvious one)

Okay so can add this function

function squareBracketIfHasValue(value)
{
     if(value.length>0) 
     {
        return " [" + value + "]";
     }
     else
     {
        return "";
     }
};

and use it

squareBracketIfHasValue(toUpperCase(catalogno))
+ ifnotempty("(" +albumyear, ") ") 
+ ifnotempty(albumartists,' - ') 
+ title 
+ squareBracketIfHasValue(toUpperCase(audioformat))
+ '/'
+ ifnotempty(trackno,'. ')
+ ifnotempty(artist,' - ')
+ title
+ squareBracketIfHasValue(toTitleCase(key));

or even include as part of the script

function squareBracketIfHasValue(value)
{
     if(value.length>0) 
     {
        return " [" + value + "]";
     }
     else
     {
        return "";
     }
};

squareBracketIfHasValue(toUpperCase(catalogno))
+ ifnotempty("(" +albumyear, ") ") 
+ ifnotempty(albumartists,' - ') 
+ title 
+ squareBracketIfHasValue(toUpperCase(audioformat))
+ '/'
+ ifnotempty(trackno,'. ')
+ ifnotempty(artist,' - ')
+ title
+ squareBracketIfHasValue(toTitleCase(key));

Then we can add similar function for surrounding year with round brackets, and also use substring to only get year.

e.g

   function squareBracketIfHasValue(value)
{
     if(value.length>0) 
     {
        return " [" + value + "]";
     }
     else
     {
        return "";
     }
};

function roundBracketIfHasValue(value)
{
     if(value.length>0) 
     {
        return " (" + value + ")";
     }
     else
     {
        return "";
     }
};

squareBracketIfHasValue(toUpperCase(catalogno))
+ roundBracketIfHasValue(substring(albumyear,4)) 
+ ifnotempty(albumartists,' - ') 
+ title 
+ squareBracketIfHasValue(toUpperCase(audioformat))
+ '/'
+ ifnotempty(trackno,'. ')
+ ifnotempty(artist,' - ')
+ title
+ squareBracketIfHasValue(toTitleCase(key));

But I think there is currently a mistake in the folder part of your script, because it references title which is song title and I think you want to to reference album which is album title instead. Otherwise the subfolder part is going to be different for every song, and therefore each song will end up in its own folder.

e.g

function squareBracketIfHasValue(value)
{
     if(value.length>0) 
     {
        return " [" + value + "]";
     }
     else
     {
        return "";
     }
};

function roundBracketIfHasValue(value)
{
     if(value.length>0) 
     {
        return " (" + value + ")";
     }
     else
     {
        return "";
     }
};

squareBracketIfHasValue(toUpperCase(catalogno))
+ roundBracketIfHasValue(substring(albumyear,4)) 
+ ifnotempty(albumartists,' - ') 
+ album 
+ squareBracketIfHasValue(toUpperCase(audioformat))
+ '/'
+ ifnotempty(trackno,'. ')
+ ifnotempty(artist,' - ')
+ title
+ squareBracketIfHasValue(toTitleCase(key));

e.g

[Aschente]

Hi Paul,

That’s wonderful ! Thanks a lot for your help. This is much much better indeed. I finally understand the function thing as well now. I mean… not complicated at all but took some time to adjust to it.

Regarding the masking, for consumer easiness and to maybe avoid noob questions like mine that are probably too common. I would suggest putting a ‘?’ next to “Mask” in the “Edit filename mask” window, and when hovering over this question mask, an ephemeral window would appear showing the following :

@paultaylor

We dont write separate subfolder and filename mask, we write a single mask that defines what subfolder and filename should be. We then apply that to file and when we run Correct Metadata from Filename it uses the result to the right of the last ‘/’ which is the folder separator, whereas Correct SubFolders from Metadata uses the result to the left of the last ‘/’ . Note subfolder field usually holds multiple folders e.g folders representing albumartist/album is the most usual.

What is probably obvious for long time consumers can be really nebulous for others at first sight. It could also be added to this panel to make it clear from the get go that file and folder renaming is 1 and the same, but must be seperated with ‘/’ : Preferences: File and Folder Correct: Rename File from Metadata

(my experience is that i only started to get it after reading this : Correct sub folder from metadata issue )

And if we had to go further we helping newbies and broader the reach of possible users. I’d add a comment section in the function editing window that would explain in one simple phrase what the function does. Hovering over the function while scrolling the list would then show the comment. This way we can directly have a better idea of how it’s working, remember what previously done, or immediatly know what to change to adapt an existing function to our needs.

I understand there is a tutorial, but even so, i think one should not have to go deep in a manual to understand implied functions of basic features, but rather in order to go deeper with its understanding of it. Maybe I’m bias since i typically prefer learning trying than scrolling manuals.
This would help people familiarise faster with the program. I’m sure this could be expanded to many more features, and maybe i’ll sport them later on, but that’s the only one i can talk about right now…

Anyway that is just a suggestion, there are pros and cons on doing this i know. Thanks again for the explanations !

[Aschente]

Ah, and lastly before i stop annoying you, how can i ask the program to prefer one release over another one from the same track or album ? Or does it mean my track do indeed come from another release and not the one i originally thought ?

See highlighted in the picture attached. Folder pictures are correct, they come from the label “Astral Industries” but some tracks other data (date, catalog, …) got changed to match an other release of the same album.
The picture should list all from “[AI-05]” to “[AI-15]” but some mysteriously changed.

Is this something that we need to manually change or can it be automated somewhere too ?

[paultaylor]

I take on your points and have created an issue to consider further

Finding alot of customers prefer video tutorials so we have just started doing some new ones, but they take a while, file renaming described in this video here

We also have a Rename Filename video for SongKong that you may find useful

[paultaylor]

Sorry Im not clear which rows on that screenshot are you referring to, what is the album name and can you give me a link to the actual album on MusicBrainz.

[paultaylor]

But I can give you a general answer.

I assume you ran AutoCorrect, by default this runs Auto Correct from MusicBrainz and AutoCorrect from Discogs, in both cases songs are grouped by folder/existing metadata and then Jaikoz tries to find matching album for all songs in that grouping. If there is more than one it that is a good match it will take user preferences such as Remote Correct:Match:Preferred Country and Preferred media formats into account to select the best match.

If we want to match a particular set of songs to a particular match, then use one of the Match to Album actions .

Or we can also use the Manual Correct from MusicBrainz action that offers an interactive way to select MusicBrainz matches.