Not Matching Bandcamp Tracks

[Twobitaudio]

Hello!
Used the Bandcamp function on an Untagged folder with 1722 x flac and dsf x39, after around 1.5 hours it had processed around 420 files, none of which were matched to bandcamp audio (cancelled at 1.5 hours as it seemed to stop, or was very slow).

Have resent support files.

Link to some albums (though many are singles, it turns out) that I confirmed are on bandcamp:

https://app.filen.io/#/f/660ae72a-a326-4534-b7f7-7fd0c4d4a67f%23674a5a653052427a646a38634a51386935444763766f4d4a3379776f6b655a7a

Maybe I’m doing something wrong, its the metadata (though it looks good) or my PC config.

Thanks

EDIT: I pointed SK to a folder I knew was on bandcamp and it doesn’t pick it up

[paultaylor]

HI, looked at the first one, I can find the artist but not the Closer release, am I missing something?

Christian Löffler

[paultaylor]

Okay I found it, it is a track on an album - https://christianloffler.bandcamp.com/album/until-we-meet-again

So this is the issue, unlike MusicBrainz and Discogs when matching to Bandcamp we are using their own very limited and slow api. And we find matches by searching for matching artists, and then browse each artists albums to find a matching album, and then match the songs in the folder to the tracks on the album, but we don’t do track searches.

We don’t do track searches because customers usually store their songs in album folders, and even if possible to do track searches it would just be too slow, Bandcamp matching is already significantly slower than MusicBainz/Discogs matching and this would make it even slower.

[paultaylor]

Okay so that accounts for the first three Closer, Home and Melanchonia (https://tinlicker.bandcamp.com/album/dreams-of-the-machine) and also Three PathWays (https://shugorei.bandcamp.com/album/memories-of-magic-mah-no-kioku)

I cant find Nascer

The problem with Silent Currents 3 (https://projektrecords.bandcamp.com/album/silent-currents-3) is it is listed under a record label (projektrecords) rather than artist, currently we don’t support finding releases underneath a label but I am going to see if that is possible - https://jthink.atlassian.net/browse/SONGKONG-2920. The issue is we don’t usually have the label only the album title and searching only by album can bring back alot of similarly named albums which can take a while to process due to the limitations of bandcamp searching.

[Twobitaudio]

Thanks for checking these!

So, for bandcamp releases to be found they should be albums linked to the artist, I guess.

[paultaylor]

That is currently the case. Maybe I can do something with the tracks but it would help me to understand why they are in a track folder rather than an album folder?

[paultaylor]

Actually, the issue isn’t so much that the track is in a folder named after the track rather than the album, the problem is the existing metadata has the Album field set to the Track Title rather than the Album Title, if this was set to the Album Title then it would usually match.

Now for artist on a regular label if they released singles from an album, each single would have its own release to match to. But maybe the situation is different with self-released releases on Bandcamp, when you say these were singles do you mean they were released as a single or that you purchased/downloaded just one track of an album?

[paultaylor]

Okay I decided to do some work on this, found a few issues. Now it is currently matching four of the six tracks you provided, and I’ve also added some details to the Errors and Warnings tab to make it easier to work out when no match.

Should have something you can try in a few days.

[paultaylor]

Major improvements in SongKong 12.3 Screamadelica, please give it a go.

SongKong 12.3 Screamadelica

We have another release! Not the intention to release a new version so soon after the last one but made some major improvements to Bandcamp matching and I wanted to make it available as soon as possible. Bandcamp Matching Better general matching plus added new feature to match tracks on an album when only have single track and not the album, and added album matching when the Bandcamp artist does not have their own page but share with others on the same record level Also, we now log bandcamp m…

[Twobitaudio]

Hello,
Could you check this album :

https://app.filen.io/#/f/97d62c50-ede3-41b5-ae55-04dd4df4c927%23724f344d61456a45534c4d4951797469415436336d6d47725356394a4f536d38

with it’s bandcamp page Nadja Lind - The 2nd Rule | Nadja Lind

Seems an exact match, so don’t know why SK isn’t picking it up when pointed to the folder.

[paultaylor]

Hi, tried it I dont know if you are technically minded but basically Bandcamp doesnt provide an api we have to parse the pages, first we search for a matching artist, then for matching artists go to their music page and check the albums listed on that page. However when I look at the music page only the first 16 albums are listed in the way I expect , if you do View Source in your web-browser you’ll see that the list ends at line 2204 with album LUCIDFLOW DJ MIX NO. 7 by Nadja Lind, the 16th album listed, The 2nd Rule is the seventeenth album listed !

Then we try searching just by album name but we dont get match because the album name is actually Nadja Lind - The 2nd Rule rather than just The 2nd Rule and this messes up the initial match

https://bandcamp.com/search?q=the%2B2nd%2Brule&item_type=a

I can certainly fix second issue and probably first issue, in the meantime manually changing the album field from The 2nd Rule to Nadja Lind - The 2nd Rule and then re-running Bandcamp Match did give a match.

[Twobitaudio]

Hello, thanks for checking this.
Shame they don’t give an API!

I guess we’d have to check the metadata in the files we have to ensure it matches the artist’s album name, which is a bit of a pain but has to be done until/if they make it easier, I guess!

Thanks a lot.

[paultaylor]

We do fuzzy match not exact match but not fuzzy enough in this case, but will be fixed for next release, may not work 100% but it will be better.

https://jthink.atlassian.net/browse/SONGKONG-2932
https://jthink.atlassian.net/browse/SONGKONG-2933