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What major feature/improvement would you most like to see in SongKong?

I think that this app would benefit from a revamp of the user interface. It is too complex .

I would be grateful if you could expand on this problem. The reports open in web browser and use the very standard Boostrap 5 so I’m suprised you are finding them so unreasonable unless maybe you are hitting this unresolved issue https://jthink.atlassian.net/browse/SONGKONG-2173

Perhaps you could post a screenshot

We cant use Gracenote because that stops us using anything else, and the data is too expensive and not that good, also I think the MusicBrainz project is the best way forward. What I am working on is an easier way to get more albums into MusicBrainz .

Don’t know what GDE is ?

I have some ideas for improving artwork coverage.

Could you give us some examples, to me the UI seems very straightforward

  • Select music folder
  • Optionally select Profile
  • Select task
  • Review Options
  • Start

Maybe you mean there are too many options, we do hide some with the Advanced view but I dont see that more than a couple could be removed, is this what you mean or something else ?

I am sorry Paul. I mean GD3. And yes, an easier way to get albums into musicbrainz from either SongKong or Jaikoz would be great. I have tried to directly conribute on the Musicbrainz site and it is a nightmare. And they never stop sending you emails about corrections.

Okay, I think GD3 has the same issues as Gracenote really, if I was to add another source it would be a primary source like Bandcamp.

Did you know you can submit releases from Jaikoz already (Action:Remote Correct:Submit New Release), although it only seeds the release editor you still have to at least press submit on the website.

But what I am really meaning is separate from Jaikoz/SongKong a way of finding missing albums from MusicBrainz and making it easy to submit them, made a start with New Acoustid Album Archive but still have work to do with this.

That would be great. I have a number of albums I’d love to submit to Musicbrainz but am reluctant to given problems I have had in the past.

Hello
Thank you for your interest .
The options are not always intuitive, a menu system with some hints on the purpose of each option might help. Having to refer to the user manual is cumbersome.
Best regards
Albert

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ReplayGain tags would be greatly appreciated. When moving new music to my server I will use Foobar2000 as well as SongKong in order to add the ReplayGain data. Wouldn’t it be nice to eliminate Foobar2000?

You are quite right this would be very useful, in fact I would add it the poll but I cant modify the poll once people start voting, I think best to add as a new task rather than add to the Fix Songs task

Okay, are you using the desktop or web interface ?
Both have help or tooltips for each option

e.g

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So are you saying you cant see the help/tooltip or that it is not detailed enough ?

I’m sure the reports are fine for the people that use them, all I’m suggesting is an option to turn report creation off, that’s all. Thanks!

I’m a one day old user (with Roon) so have yet to get a full feel for things but it would be great if the following could be got to display as recorded rather than performed.

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HI John, if this is being added by SongKong then it is using the RECORDINGSTARTDATE, RECORDINGENDDATE, RECORDINGLOCATION fields so the use of the word Performed would be a choice made by Roon, you can check this by looking at the Track Editor within Roon, see SongKong can now get Recording Location and Dates automatically

But a quick look on Musicbrainz makes me think this data is not coming from SongKong actually as I cant see a recording location relationship in MusicBrainz, so probably purely a roon thing.

Okay, but Im just concerned that you say they are useless and you cant read them

I just inputted that information manually to see how it would show up. So it’s Roon using the performed wording, strange seeing that it goes in fields named “recorded”.

.sjb

Hello, I was not aware of the web interface. How can I activate it?
Again, thank you for your interest
Yours
Albert

If running from desktop just select File:Start Remote Mode - that should open SongKong in your web browser and until you select File:Stop Remote mode all control is via the web browser.

Possibly a better jaikoz/songkong integration would be a good avenue, in order to quickly switch from one tool to the other when pertinent (as of today, I’m a poor user of Jaikoz because I was not able to understand its logic when Songkong is clear to me)(and this is why I’m not able to be more specific when saying “a better integration”).
Also, when Songkong fails to recognize a full album, I often find the web report not very explicit, and need to open the spreadsheet to get the details… I think it misses an “album report” above the “track reports”.

The first stage is ensuring that if Jaikoz/SongKong update the same song from MusicBrainz or Discogs they will update with same data (options permitting), they are currently very similar but there are some differences.

Some deeper integration does seem like a good idea.

Have to think more about this one as well.

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