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Some ideas for the remote version

#1

Many fundamental changes have now been implemented in SK. That’s excellent.

Nevertheless, I have a few requests that, in my opinion, would make working with SK even easier (remote version!).

As someone who works with SK, I would like:

  • A warning message if the application is closed via browser tab, stating that changes will be lost - option for “close anyway? y/n” - or similar;
  • An option to open the of a task operation (e.g., Fix Songs) online instead of having to save it to read it;
  • A way to call any task with a keyboard shortcut;
  • Variable column widths;
  • Free choice of which columns I see and in what order;

It’s possible that these features are implemented in Jaikoz - however, I think this would also be useful for users who only need SK by using the remote version.

Best regards,

Klaus

#2

Klaus, I dont understand what you mean by this one.

#3

Sorry, that was a little unclear:
The direct result of a task can be displayed as a spreadsheet (“view metadata as spreadsheet”); however, this always requires saving it locally and then opening it; it would sometimes be simpler if it could be opened directly in the application without saving it locally.

#4

It is an xlsx spreadsheet, if you look at the underlying html where you click on the link it is simply

            <li class="nav-item">
                <a href="StatusReport00177_spreadsheet.xlsx" class="nav-link">
                    View metadata as Spreadsheet
                </a>
            </li>

It gets downloaded because your browser cannot view the xlsx format within, if it could it would just display the spreadsheet within browser but as it cannot it downloads it. Im not aware of any way i can improve this?

It is also worth nothing that after the task is created the html report is opened in browser, and you can see all changes within the browser by navigating via the Browse menu and filter by matches/updates ectera. Whereas the spreadsheet view is a rudimentary basic view that simply lists the metadata song by song, of course you can take advantage of your spreadsheet applications functions to view the data but it is not meant to be the primary way to view the results.

#5

Hi Paul,
The spreadsheet view seems much clearer to me for a first overview — especially when you’ve started a task in preview mode — than using the “browse menu.” But that probably depends on how you work with the tool; and even if it were technically feasible, it would certainly be far too much work.

Thanks for your assessment.

Best regards,
Klaus

#6

The only solution would be to generate a html version of spreadsheet, but there are three key issues:

  1. It would be very difficult within html to create a view that lets you see so many columns, we do that to some extent with Manual Edit, but it is much less slick than using an actual spreadsheet application
  2. Browsers cant deal with loading large pages if you were running over whole colection the resultant html spreadsheet would likely fail to load in browse window
  3. Would not benefit from the inbuilt tools of a spreadsheet application

If you could explain why the Browse menu less useful then spreadsheet view that would be most helpful and I may be able to improve it to your liking.

#7

Hi Paul,

What I particularly appreciate about the spreadsheet view:

• The fields are grouped by content into individual tabs (Basic, Release, Classical, etc.)

• Within these tabs, I immediately have a view of all the included fields and tracks

• Changes are highlighted (this is sufficient for me to get an overview)

• I can customize columns and fields
As I said, this really suits my way of working with the tool.

When I use the “Browse” menu (for example, “Browse by Album”), I initially only see 9 fields; for details, I then have to open each individual track and scroll through the list.

However, my request is probably not very representative, and it therefore makes more sense for you to focus on features that benefit the majority of users.

Ultimately, the current spreadsheet solution just means that “at the end of the day,” I simply have to delete the saved files again.

Best regards,
Klaus

#8

Okay, so it would be possible to modify the View Details page for particular Album so that the display is tabbed to show more columns enabling you to see the values for all tracks at the same time. I’m not that keen on introducing horizontal scrolling to the page though so not practical to show all columns, thats normal for an actual spreadsheet but not great for a webpage, also it’s doable when using a computer but not a phone, so for a phone screen the existing method seems to be best approach.

It’s also worth noting if you are just interested in changes, since 11.9 we do now summarize what fields in what songs have been changed so you get an overview without having to look at individual tracks.

So to summarize maybe I could add some tabs showing key fields, or allow you in Preferences to configure the fields you are really interested in, what do you think?

#9

Hi Paul,

> "So to summarize, maybe I could add some tabs showing key fields, or allow you in Preferences to configure the fields you're really interested in. What do you think?"

This suggestion sounds almost perfect for me :slightly_smiling_face:; I’d be delighted if it could be implemented.

Best regards, Klaus

#10

Okay, raised https://jthink.atlassian.net/browse/SONGKONG-2828

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