Problems with right-click cut / copy / paste

[iMikla]

I am evaluating Jaikoz for tagging my flac files and find that it is a pretty good program.

One problem I have come across is with cut and paste. In many fields, including file and other sub menus I cannot use the mouse-right-click menu to cut / copy / paste. I have to use the keyboard key-combos. This is very frustrating.

What I am hoping is that this is this a feature of the trial version and if I buy a registered copy, it will work properly.

If this is a bug in all versions, can you please tell me if you plan to fix it in the near future?

Thank you.

Michael

[paultaylor]

HI iMikia

I can right click on a field in the filename column and copy it so I cant see the problem. Can you be a bit more specific, what fields are you right clicking on and not getting a context menu or is the problem something different.

[iMikla]

Hi Paul,

Here are the five things I have noticed so far (first two are related):

1. If I pull down the file menu and select any of the sub-menus:
   Open Folder
   Add Folder
   Open Files
   Add Files
   (etc)

in the filename field in the sub-menu or dialog box or what-have-you, there are no context menus upon right click. Since the Edit menu is unavailable in this situation, the only way to cut / copy / paste is with keyboard short-cuts Ctrl-x, Ctrl-c, Ctrl-v.

2. In the lower half of the screen in the Info, MusicBrainz, Sorting, Relations, and Lyrics tabs, none of the fields permit right-click context menus. What is odd, is while the Edit drop-menu is available in this situation, they are all grayed out even though there may be something selected, or something in the clip board. In this case, I can still use the keyboard commands and they work despite the fact that the Edit menu items are grayed.

3. Last night I tried to use:

   Edit->Capitalizer->Sentence case

on the Lyrics field under the Lyrics tab (one of the song lyrics came down in all upper case). Instead of correcting the case, it cleared the field. Subsequent attempts to restore the lyrics by using the get-lyrics function (Action->Remote Correct->Correct Lyrics) would not restore the lyrics. I had to go to the URL and copy and paste (using the keyboard) the lyrics back in the field.

4. There seems to be no way to add an icon to the upper menu below the File, Edit, etc. menu. Would be nice to have an icon to Correct Lyrics just after Update Tags from Discogs instead of having to Action->Remote Correct->Correct Lyrics, or Ctrl+4. (would also be nice to have an icon for correcting file names from tags also as this is the sequence I use, but for others it might be different). Any way to customize this that I have missed?

5. When getting lyrics (Action->Remote Correct->Correct Lyrics), sometimes it does not get lyrics for all songs. If I immediately re-run it, the missing lyrics are filled in. This also happen when running the other remote commands like retrieving acoustic IDs and getting info from MusicBrainz, but not as often. This is repeatable if done enough times on the same set of files so it cannot be that someone just posted the lyrics at the server end.

I hope that provides the detail you need.

Thanks.

Michael

[paultaylor]

1 & 2:
Good point, it never occurred to me to have a context menu in these places, because most processing is done in the table view and I always used the shortcuts for copy/paste - I’ll get this added in

3:
Ah, its because actions like this are applied to all the fields selected in the Table view, not the highlighted field in the Detail Pane. This is a bug in Jaikoz, by default Lyrics are not retrieved if you alkready have some lyrics - I wonder if even though the field was blank it somehow thought it still had a value.

4:
Understood, no the toolbar cannot be customised except for switching between Simple and Advanced toolbar. (The difficulty for me is the effort involved in producing new icons. )

5:
The Lyrics Server has an a throttler which doesn’t work that well, so sometimes queries from Jaikoz are rejected when they shouldn’t be, I need to add a retry mechanism for Lyrics.

The other services can also fail temporariiy if overloaded, but there is already a retry mechanism built into Jaikoz for Musicbrainz and MusicIP, so this shouldn’t normally be a problem.

[iMikla]

Paul,

Thanks for the quick response. Sorry it took so long for me to come
back, studying for tests kinda sucks me into the void sometimes…

1 & 2:
Good point, it never occurred to me to have a context menu in
these places, because most processing is done in the table view
and I always used the shortcuts for copy/paste - I’ll get this added
in

Awesome. I switch between using the keyboard and mouse depending on what computer I’m on (and software like vi is all keyboard); for some reason on the portable it’s much easier to use the mouse. Plus such-like things as updating between browser and Jaikoz (as in manually getting lyrics from some other site when LyricsFly doesn’t have them (often enough for my music)) means I need to use the mouse to get into a field and highlight anyway, so it’s already en mano…

3:
Ah, its because actions like this are applied to all the fields selected in
the Table view, not the highlighted field in the Detail Pane. This is a bug
in Jaikoz, by default Lyrics are not retrieved if you alkready have some
lyrics - I wonder if even though the field was blank it somehow thought
it still had a value.

This was my suspicion as well; I even tried clearing the field, but alas, no help. I fixed it by tossing, reverting (to my backup folder which was unmodified), and redux…

4:
Understood, no the toolbar cannot be customised except for switching
between Simple and Advanced toolbar. (The difficulty for me is the
effort involved in producing new icons. )

If you would like, I could design some icons for your consideration. I’m a fairly adept graphic artist when I put my mind to it. Might take me a while as it would have to be in my spare time, but I’d be glad to give it a shot. Even if you only might use them, at least they would be on hand…

The other services can also fail temporariiy if overloaded, but there is
already a retry mechanism built into Jaikoz for Musicbrainz and
MusicIP, so this shouldn’t normally be a problem.

It does happen to me sometimes (every 5 or 6 albums worth of songs). Almost never with MusicIP, but more likely with MusicBrainz. I see your dilemma. Perhaps the same button idea in the tab could work here as well (re-get).

Perhaps you could have the item number turn red or some-such if something in your last lookup failed. That way one wouldn’t have to review every file in the list to see if something didn’t make it…

Hope you don’t mind my blurting out random ideas; and of course, no expectations here, just sharing what echos in my head (scary eh?)…

Michael

[paultaylor]

4. That would be great, perhaps just do a lyrics one for now and see how it works out.

5. Could do, but of course you can right click on any number of rows and just select Remote Correct/Correct Lyrics to reget them, so I don’t really see how having a button which can only be accessed via the lyrics tab and only applies to a single song is that useful. If you already have lyrics I dont see why you would want to reget them, so I dont see the point of the popup dialog.

6. Same as 5.

[paultaylor]

Now fixed in dev , so that the field doesnt get blanked but Ive thought about what you said and now taking a step further. If you have the focus in a field in the detail tab then the edit commands will be applied to that field, rather than fields selected i the table view whereas if the thing you did was select fields in the tableview then the edit command will be applied to those fields, hope this is an improvement.