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Pre Purchase questions...can it do this please... (Mac)

#1

Hi

Been trying to find a decent Mac MP3 tagger. I use iTunes extensively and so far have used iTunes to tag all my music with the relevant metadata.

however someone told me about “hidden” tags, and showed me them. I have some weird tags in stuff like encoded, copyright, URLs etc that I now what to get rid of.

I found a few mac MP3 extended taggers, but none seemed to simply allow me to load up all my MP3s (over 14000 of them!), then hightlight the tag or list of all the stuff I want to delete and remove it all.

So can Jaikoz do this, if so how. It all seems a bit complicated for em when I looked at the trial of it.

As I say iTunes is great for me, but I just need to get rid of these extra “hidden” tags

hope someone can help
cheers
Mr

#2

Yes, it can do that , but of course what is a hidden tag for you might not be for someone else, you should think carefully about whether you really do what to remove this data from your songs.

To remove fields that Jaikoz doesn’t deal with:
Load songs in Jaikoz
Click on the ID3 Edit Tab in the Main Window,
Right click on the Not Supported Column and select Empty Column
Right click on the Unknown Column and select Empty Column
Save Changes

You could also delete values form any column in the Edit or ID3 Edit column to delete fields of that type.

#3

Thanks for the fast reply…

I understand this but I just want basically what iTunes can see, this is enough info for me

[quote=paultaylor]
To remove fields that Jaikoz doesn’t deal with:
Load songs in Jaikoz
Click on the ID3 Edit Tab in the Main Window,
Right click on the Not Supported Column and select Empty Column
Right click on the Unknown Column and select Empty Column
Save Changes[/quote]
I cannot find the Not supported column, I can see a “Not supported list” is this it? I highlight the column, but I right click (I’m on a Mac btw), but nothing comes up?

[quote=paultaylor]
You could also delete values form any column in the Edit or ID3 Edit column to delete fields of that type.[/quote]
Unsure what you mean by this sorry? also whats the difference between the Edit and ID3 Edit tab?

cheers
Mr

#4

You’ve uncovered a bugette , the ‘Empty Column’ option is available by right clicking on the header BUT its only available on the Edit tab not the ID3 Edit tab at the moment.

The alternative slightly more longwinded way of clearing the values is to select all the fields in the column, then right click on and select ‘Delete’

[quote=MrMrMr]

I just mean you can easily delete whatever you like

Okay the Edit tab contains a list of columns representing fields that can be stored in any of the music formats supported by Jaikoz such as Mp3, Mp4 or Wma. ID3 is the format used internally by mp3s and as such the ID3 Edit is only relevent to mp3 files, it gives access to additional fields that are supported in mp3s but not he other formats.

#5

Ah ha, thought it was me being stoopid again! phew thanks (does that mean I can have a discount code!?! please?)

I understand now, I only use MP3, for cross compatibility so I will always use the ID3 Edit tab then.

I can select all the files in a column your right and then just delete, its just a long winded way for numerous tabs thats all.

Can I ask also is the ID3 Edit tab list everything in ID3 tags then? ie as I said iTunes only shows certain tags, so does Jaikoz, in ID3 edit tab list every available tag in the MP3 file? nothing else is hidden? (I have selected all to show in preferences>ID3 columns btw)

thanks again, and its looking like Jaikoz may be a bit overkill for what I want, but may do what I want.

#6

Yes, Jaikoz does show everything, because all the fields it doesnt deal with directly go into either the Not Supported List or Unknown List

#7

So the long list once everything is selected in preferences is all ID3 MP3 tags? So there’s even more in the unsupported list?

What is this list? What does it not show? What happens if there is morethan one field in that unsupported list? What will it show?

Cheers for helping before I buy

#8

Jaikoz provides support for editing most of the ID3 fields you would want to edit, but ID3 provides other binary fields that it wouldn’t make sense to edit but you might want to delete these are listed Not Supported List column. Mp3s can also create custom tags, it si impossible for any application to know about all custom tags ever created so theses are listed in the Unknown List column.

I suggest you play a bit more with the software then I think it make more sense
to you.

Both the Unsupported and Unknown lists have a little numbered box to the left hand side of them telling you how many values they contain, you see the first value in the field itself, and you can see all the values by double clicking on the numbered box.

#9

Ok great thanks for that, I’m not bothered about seeing the “other” tags as long as I can delete them that is good enough for me, it’s just I want to get everything out I don’t need, ie just what iTunes can “see”, which is good enough for all iPhones, iPods etc this is all I need.

To be honest the support from the admins (are you also the developers?) has been so good today that I will prob buy anyway now and try to find out the rest :slight_smile:

[quote=paultaylor]
You’ve uncovered a bugette , the ‘Empty Column’ option is available by right clicking on the header BUT its only available on the Edit tab not the ID3 Edit tab at the moment.[/quote]
Will this be fixed for ID3 tab as well then please soon to?

#10

:smiley: Yes I am both

[quote=MrMrMr]
Will this be fixed for ID3 tab as well then please soon to?
.[/quote]
Yes, I would think fixed for next release

#11

I’ve discovered a few of my MP3s have more than 1 artwork on (again through iTunes), its easy to delete through iTunes, but you have to go through every track individually, a pain when I have 14000+!

So can Jaikoz, find which tracks have more than one artwork attached? how do I do this, and is there an easy way to, eg make a playlist, orhighlight them all, or something so I can work on them?

Also now iTunes 10 is out, is everything compatible between Jaikoz and iTunes 10?

cheers

update just purchased, hope the above can be done!

Been messing for a short while, can I ask how I have some info in the comment field in Jaikoz, but its not showing in iTunes? this is what I dont understand. Various fields in iTunes (named the same eg comment). dont show anything, but in Jaikoz (and other apps) they do show the info?
no doubt I’ll be emailing questions soon :slight_smile:

#12

[quote=MrMrMr]I’ve discovered a few of my MP3s have more than 1 artwork on (again through iTunes), its easy to delete through iTunes, but you have to go through every track individually, a pain when I have 14000+!

So can Jaikoz, find which tracks have more than one artwork attached? how do I do this, and is there an easy way to, eg make a playlist, orhighlight them all, or something so I can work on them?
[/quote]
There is an artwork column, if you sort your songs by the artwork column descending, songs with multiple artwork will then be listed first, you can select whatever you like for doing further processing, but there is no special edit option to remove the numbers of artwork for one song to one.

I assume so, but Jaikoz hasnt been tested against itunes 10 yet, however Jaikoz doesnt depend on iTunes in any way it only aims to inform of iTunes of changes automatically, if it doesn’t work you can also it manually.

Comments fields for mp3s also have a language and description field which you can see and edit by using the ID3 Edit tab, the values of these fields effect what iTunes uses as a comment