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MusicBrainz Autocorrect not matching highest scoring Manual Correct results?

#1

Hi Paul
Fantastic program, thanks for your effort.

I’m having a little problem with the remote autocorrect mode choosing matches that are not as good as the best ones found by performing a manual correct on the same files.

Basically, autocorrect is selecting a lot of compilation albums,
whereas when I run a manual correct, AFTER reverting the tags to the starting point to make the test fair,
there are clearly original albums detected AND those originals nearly always have the highest score!

I have to assume that the autocorrect mode is either:
a) somehow deriving different scores from the exact same files
(are there settings for the preferences->MB->automatch tab that duplicate what manualmatch uses to select candidates?)
b) accessing a poorer pool of candidates in the DB

I’m doing everything I can think of to help the match
(acoustic ID, removing potentially confusing tags like track number and “various artist” from the files).
No effect. Manual often has better top scoring matches than auto selects.

Note: I see in the forum that you recently discussed adding the option to force the choice of original albums over compilations.
This would be exactly what I want!
I DO see the “prefer original release” option under the Preferences->MB->Match Tab, and I DO have it checked.
Unfortunately, it doesn’t seem to make any difference to the auto mode
Maybe it IS the reason the originals score so highly in manual. However, the auto mode chooses compilations regardless!

Basically, I know there will always be some “errors” with automatch but in my test cases I’d be ecstatic if it simply matched the best manualmatch results. In my test, blindly choosing the best scoring manualcorrect produced only <20% compilations.
Running autocorrect produced >50% compilations!
It’d be a real shame IF automatch cannot be set up to duplicate the rules/settings that manualmatch uses for its scoring and candidate selection, which appear to work really great.

Any help much appreciated.
If you can fix this it’ll just be an extra layer of awesome to this program!

#2

My Bad,
this question would probably be better posted in the “issues” forum.

#3

They should use the same rules so I don’t understand the discrepancy, I’ll need a full example to figure this out. Having said that Ive been working with Musicbrainz on an improved searching on their side, it has passed user testing and should be rolled out next week, this will giver better search results across the board.

#4

I have to agree with the original poster; the autocorrect from musicbrainz often select another match than the one with the highest score in manual match. The result is a lot of compilation-matches, even if the “prefer original release…” option is checked.

brgds /Mats

#5

I’m new to Jaikoz, so forgive any ignorance on my part.

Are you experiencing, with AutoCorrect, that certain tracks on an album are tagged as part of other albums, often comp. albums?

I want to carefully tag my 50K+ files but I only want some files to have all fields propagated. The problem I am having is with a well known group of box sets by Trojan Records, the AutoCorrect feature started pulling/tagging some files as coming from other comps.

Just felt like Jaikoz should be smart (or me to figure out some undiscovered option) enough to understand I am tagging similar files in a unique disk location.

Worst case, I have to do 10-20% manual tag correction, which isn’t bad, but I almost feel like I would overall be quicker, just tagging in J.River as I have custom fields and it is a very powerful program with its expressions and other features.

I know I will use Jaikoz and I know when tagging there is nothing that can do it all, nor would we want it to due to the personal preferences we all have for certain meta-data fields.

Don’t mean to sound negative, as I am very new to this application, but I hope I can contribute some solid reporting on my experiences with what seems to be a great app.

Thanks!
Jon

#6

Hi, I would like to agree with Bambleweeny57 and matlun that I, too, am experiencing this problem. I have to go through manually and update because the match is off.

#7

We a reworking on improving the algotithm, this should be alot easier when Muiscbrainz Ngs http://blog.musicbrainz.org/?p=439 is finally released :wink: