First - great effort implementing the “Match to release” feature! Room for improvements, but already very useful 
But… I can’t find a way to check more than one album at a time? Am I missing something? Most of us have our albums in dedicated folders already, and it should be possible to match to release folder by folder?
If there isn’t such an option present, then this post should most definitely be posted in the “Wishlist” forum 
Hi, if you run Autocorrect form Musicbrainz now it does indeed do release matching as you request like Match to Release , so you can do it all in one go with a couple of caveats.
Does the folder names need to be accurate for this to work? I have some folders that I know contain complete albums but the folder names are not correct…
[quote=chillware]Does the folder names need to be accurate for this to work? I have some folders that I know contain complete albums but the folder names are not correct…
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Either the foldername OR the release field metadata
Are you using the 3.8.3 preprelease posted in beta forum, this works better then the public 3.8.2 release
Ah… Not going to help me then… And it tries to match against Discogs, not Musicbrainz, right?
Is it possible to add a “Match to releases[color=red]es[/color]”? Jaikoz should group by folders, cycling through them one by one
I agree, Jaikoz should have an option to ignore the folder name, and look at folders individually, assuming each is a complete album and take the Album tag of the files in that folder, assume its correct and do a match to release of all files in that folder to the Album tags on those files… make sense?
That way folders that should be complete albums dont have to have a correct name. I have probably 2000+ folders of albums I am confident are complete, but the folder titles contain lots of extra info that jaikoz cant make sense of, ex. “00-chronic_vibe-who_brings_the_vibe-2006-cns”.
If Jaikoz could just look at the tags of the files in each folder and do its match to release from that info, that would be perfect!
also yes I am using 3.8.3 r2…
I tried dragging a few folders in to jaikoz and did a musicbrainz auto correct. It didn’t seem to care that the files were grouped in the same folder. one set of files it matched to about 8 completely different albums…
chillware, I think this is because there already exist a “Musicbrainz uniqueid”, making Jaikoz to ignore your request?
[quote=chillware]also yes I am using 3.8.3 r2…
I tried dragging a few folders in to jaikoz and did a musicbrainz auto correct. It didn’t seem to care that the files were grouped in the same folder. one set of files it matched to about 8 completely different albums…[/quote]
Does Action/Remote Correct Match to One Musicbrainz Release work ?
If you send me your support files (using Advanced/Create Support Files) and details of the folder you were trying to correct I can see what went on.
support files sent…
Yes, doing a match to one release corrected the tracks that were incorrectly identified using musicbrainz autocorrect.
in this particular case, a few files were matched to the wrong album, and some were not matched to anything using “autocorrect metadata from MB” … i then highlighted just that album in the viewer and did a match to one release, and it corrected everything just fine.
The folder that I last tested it with in the support files is called “Buddha-Bar III By Ravin CD1 - Dream”
I loaded about 6 or so Buddah Bar albums at once, all in seperate folders. Almost all of them had at least 1 track matched to an incorrect album when i selected “autocorrect metadata from mb” … highlighting each album individually in the viewer and matching to one release, works.
Hi, yes these releases are suffering from Point 2 above
i.e http://musicbrainz.org/release/4789970c-6fd6-4ac5-bfb6-587f3fa9fe6f.html
This release is essentially various artist releases in that every track is by a different artist but it isn’t credited to Various Artists its credited to Ravin instead, this causes problems for the Autocorrect algorithm stage 1, so it only manages to do a match on a song by song basis which is why it doesnt match every song to the release.
It is also complicated by your releases titles having more information in them then Musicbrainz and not matching so well
i.e buddha\-bar iii by ravin cd1 \- dream
versus
Buddha-Bar III (disc 1: Dream)
Your tilte contains additional info, Jaikoz tries searching for full release names and shortened versions but doesn’t currently identify the ‘by artist’
bit so well.
I would expect both of these issues to be fixed soon
Any thoughts on the “group by folder” feature I mentioned?
As I said it can take advantage of the foldername as a an album name, and it can take advantage of the release field containing the album name so I don’t understand why you need an additional option.
For example if you are saying that you are confident that you have one album per folder but the folder name is incorrect that should be okay if the release field is okay, if the release field is not okay either then its going to be more difficult to find a match
I think once i resolve the Mutiple Artist but not Various Artist Release problem and make better use of puids at this stage you should be happy with the results.
Well, most people have one album in it’s own folder. Some people use:
Mp3
|–Artist 1
| |---- Album 1
| |---- Album 2
| |---- Album 3
|
|–Artist 2
|---- Album 1
|---- Album 1
Or:
Mp3
|-- Artist 1 - Album 1
|-- Artist 1 - Album 2
|-- Artist 1 - Album 3
|-- Artist 2 - Album 1
|-- Artist 2 - Album 1
In alternative 2, the foldernames are structured “Artistname - Albumname”, and will never match on “Albumname”… Unless you add a way to specify the syntax in Jaikoz for matching albumname by foldername.
Why we would need a “group by folder” feature? Because most people using Jaikoz have thousands of folders with 1 album in each of them. And everyone use their own scheme for naming these folders. Priority 1 is to avoid having to right click each and every of these albums, navigating through the long java tree to find the option “match to a Musicbrainz release”… We want to open 100 folders at a time, mark every track, and ask jaikoz to match against Musicbrainz. To me, the obvious way to achieve this goal is to group by folder structure. That’s what I do today, only manually - by opening one folder at a time, and navigating to the java tree of options… (keyoard shortcuts would help a lot!).
But I may be thinking of this differently than the masses here, don’t know…
Yes but Autocorrect from Musicbrainz already works on multiple folders, and groups songs accordingly, its not perfect but in most cases should work, I don’t see how adding this extra command would give you anything extra, are you not getting good results with it.
This is what I would recommend
Try running Retrieve Acoustic Ids on all your songs overnight first
Then run Autcorrect from Musicbrainz
Then try Match to Release for folders that havent been matched (corrrectly)
Things will work better with 3.8.3 when available
I agree with Paul, the AC already groups by album and is more detailed about it. I think the by-folder method would be too vague, especially when there’s 13-track US, 12-track JAP, and 14-track UK releases.
I use version 1 of netphreaks diagram -BUT- I put disc 1 and disc 2 in the same folder (with 2 playlists). I file releases, not discs. Group by folder wouldn’t work well with these, and there’s a lot of them.
I know the pain with VA albums. This was painfully slow for me, but I started manually looking up the MBID first and matching to that. Much quicker and accurate than correcting Jaikoz’s guesses.
Pretty please, can we have this? For me the match to release does exactly what I want, either I get a perfect album, or I get nothing. The auto-thing always manages to mess up my tags so I have to adjust them manually. So my whishlist is:
//Peter
[quote=orxxx]Pretty please, can we have this? For me the match to release does exactly what I want, either I get a perfect album, or I get nothing. The auto-thing always manages to mess up my tags so I have to adjust them manually. So my whishlist is:
//Peter[/quote]
The thing is Match to Release doesn’t match songs from one folder to a release, it matches the selected songs to one release. So actually what you are suggesting would change how its works, and I don’t really want to add ANOTHER Correct from Musicbrainz task.
The existing Autocorrect from Musicbrainz had some improvements in 3.8.3 and should now work well for you in all cases except when you have a release attributed to one artist (not various artists) but with some tracks performed by other artists, this will be improved in the next release. Also remember you can already select Preferences/Remote Correct/Only Match to Complete Releases this will mimic the behaviour of Match to Release in most cases.
Autocorrect from Musicbrainz already has a shortcut key and can be run in the Autocorrecter so once I have resolved the one issue this should do everything you want, if it doesnt I’ll add another option to Autcoorrect from Musicbrainz called Group by folder only
Thanks for reading my post. I’m pretty new to Jaikoz, and I understand that different people use it in different ways. But for my music collection I rely heavily on having each release in a separate directory, and I think that’s a pretty common scenario.
I don’t really know the inner workings of Jaikoz, I just try the functions and see which ones gives me the best result (correctly tagged music that is). So let’s take a usage example (using Jaikoz 3.8.3 and Only Match to Complete Releases):
I am tagging some Springsteen albums and come up with a 3 CD live album, each CD neatly placed in a separate directory. I load up the songs from all 3 CDs in Jaikoz press ctrl-1 which retrieves acoustic-ids, autocorrects from musicbrainz and discogs, the result - nothing found = argh, is Bruce not famous enough? :\
So instead I load up only CD1 in Jaikoz, and painstakingly using the mouse go to the Jaikoz menu and select Action->Match to release->Match songs to one Musicbrainz release (my fingers already sore from all the hard manual work). And voila it quickly finds a correct match and tags all the songs correctly.
This scenario repeats itself over and over. I try to load multiple releases and tag them all in one go with ctrl-1. It doesn’t find any match, and when I load each release separately and use “Match songs to one Musicbrainz release” it works brilliantly. So the natural conclusion then is to want the perfectly working feature to not require so much manual work.
But if somehow the autocorrect would work well when I use it on multiple releases I would be happy as well. There is no point of bloating the program unnesecarily.
I would LOVE another option to Autcoorrect from Musicbrainz called Group by folder only! This would be fantastic!
I understand completly how Jaikoz attempts to match song to a release, not folders… but we as users should have the choice to which way we want Jaikoz to look at and process our collections… each way of doing it has it’s advantages over the other… Why not let us use either / or ?
also thanks for the great work on 3.8.3, it seems to function A LOT better that previous.