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Lack permissions to change files?

#10

Thanks for the logs, has errors such as

    at com.jthink.jaikoz.TagSaver$WorkerThread.run(TagSaver.java:648)
31/03/2025 17.00.53:com.jthink.jaikoz.data.mp3.MP3Bridge:saveFileOnlyFromID3:SEVERE: IOException on attempting to save file:Cannot modify H:\Shared\Air Supply\Air Supply - Platinum & Gold Collection (2004) because do not have permissions to modify file
org.jaudiotagger.audio.exceptions.UnableToModifyFileException: Cannot modify H:\Shared\Air Supply\Air Supply - Platinum & Gold Collection (2004) because do not have permissions to modify file
	at org.jaudiotagger.tag.id3.AbstractID3v2Tag.writeBufferToFile(AbstractID3v2Tag.java:1317)
	at org.jaudiotagger.tag.id3.ID3v23Tag.write(ID3v23Tag.java:804)
	at org.jaudiotagger.audio.mp3.MP3File.save(MP3File.java:921)
	at org.jaudiotagger.audio.mp3.MP3File.save(MP3File.java:825)
	at com.jthink.jaikoz.data.mp3.MP3Bridge.saveFileOnlyFromID3(MP3Bridge.java:299)
	at com.jthink.jaikoz.data.id3.ID3Bridge.saveFileFromModel(ID3Bridge.java:199)
	at com.jthink.jaikoz.data.FileBridgeFactory.saveFileFromModel(FileBridgeFactory.java:186)
	at com.jthink.jaikoz.TagSaver$WorkerThread.run(TagSaver.java:648)

So the issue is either the files themselves or something preventing access to those files.

So I assume when you it worked okay with earlier version of Jaikoz yo tested against the exact same files, if not its not a reliable test and should be redone.

If it was the same files then the obvious conclusion is that something is preventing writing to files, i.e your Anti-Virus or Malware Protection service because it does not like the new security certificate in the software. It seems there is some delay between issuing a new certificate and then getting accepted by all installations Im not clear how it works.

So in the meantime I would suggest you check the logs of your Anti-Virus or malware protetction to see if it is reporting that it has prevented file modification.

#11

Thank you.

I am not a programmer, so the log interpretation is kind of gobbledegook to me. I do see “cannot” and “permissions” scattered here and there, so I know that it kind of confirms my mundane conclusions.

There are no indications from Defender that it has detected/prevented anything from accessing my files.

Also, I think it’s kind of strange (intimidating slightly) that no one else seems to be experiencing this.

I tried to turn-off Defender, but frankly I don’t think it’s possible anymore. It doesn’t even show up in my up-to-date Windows 11 Home settings, now. It used to be there under the Security settings, but no longer. I tried all kinds of suggestions from the net, but they are basically obsolete, it seems. I even tried a registry hack, adding a turn-off key for Defender - to no avail.

If you have a good workaround, please let me know.

Meanwhile, later today I’ll try running one more test under extremely tight controls to see what happens.

Do you think it would help to run logs on both the 12.3 and 12.4 versions or is that kind of pointless since we already know that one version works and the other fails?

#12

What provides the Malware protection service?

#13

Well, I just finished up with some more testing and the BLUF -
I’m on to something.
After achieving an identical result as before: successful changes to control group music files with 12.3 and FAILURE on those same control group files with 12.4, I tried something different.

I moved the files to another hard drive. In retrospect I have no idea why I did this. At any rate -
instant success. 12.4 worked!
Does this make any kind of sense? It doesn’t to me… I am totally baffled!

So, now I am troubleshooting my hard drive - difficult because the fault behavior is so unintuitive for me. I already ran an fdisk command with no joy. I guess the next thing will be to plod through all the security controls. I hate to have to replace the drive, but I can sense that that might be next. It is a 5-year old spinner.

Thank you for your attention and help, though!
If you have any ideas, I am open to suggestions…

#14

So I said this earlier

but didnt get an answer, were you testing both versions against same drive or not?

#15

Yes, both versions were tested against the same drive - the drive that now seems faulty in some way.

But I still don’t understand why the older version works fine and the newer one doesn’t…

Presently defragging the badly fragmented drive.

#16

Was it the same files or just the same drive?

#17

It was both the same files and the same drive.

#18

Well, after considerable testing, defragging, etc. that hard drive showed no issues. However, it still doesn’t like your version 12.4.
It’s quite baffling since 12.3 works perfectly under the exact same conditions.
It must somehow be related to that certificate you referenced.

So before I pull the trigger for a new drive, I think I’ll just continue using 12.3.
Could you please let me know when the certificate for 12.4 is approved?
Thank you.

#19

Just a little update:
Lost my patience (I hate it when things don’t work!) and ordered a new hard drive, pre-tariffs… a relatively cheap 8TB spinner.
Looks like it’ll be a fun-filled weekend of file transfers. :rofl:
I will provide another update of the results, ASAP.

#20

Well, heck…

It wasn’t the hard-drive! Something got whacked in the OS.

After buying, installing and transferring everything to the new HD, the same problem arose. Jaikoz would not write changes to it. The only thing left was the OS.

There was absolutely no way of detecting a glitched Windows 11, beforehand. All logic and prior testing truly pointed to a faulty hard drive.

So… that’s the end of my sorry experience!
Perhaps someone else might benefit from this tale of frustration?

#21

So is it working now or not?

#22

Yes, it is now working.

#23

Okay, dont understand it but glad it is sorted.

#24

Welcome to the club! None of it makes any sense to me, either.

#25

Well, the problem has resurfaced. I hadn’t used the program for a few days (was in hospital) but today I tried scanning and saving some updates with Jaikoz 12.4 and it failed with the same permissions issue.
I uninstalled 12.4, installed 12.3 and it worked perfectly.
The only thing that I can conclude is that there must be a Windows security update that doesn’t like 12.4 on my PC.
So, I’ll just keep chugging along with the 12.3 version for now.

#26

Sorry, I failed to mention that I did reinstall a back-up copy of the OS over a week ago and it did fix the problem, albeit temporarily.

#27

All I can suggest is some issue with your antivirus/malware. Really nothing has changed with the functionality of the application regarding file modification and nobody else has this issue so the issue really is specific to your PC, without access to your PC it is very difficult to say exactly what the issue is.

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#28

I agree with you 100%.
I just finished installing Win11 onto an officially MS “unsupported” older PC. Jaikoz 12.4 version works perfectly even on it. Something is definitely rotten in the state of my main PC. I dread doing a complete reset and clean install of the OS, but it looks like that’s my only play.
I think as a last resort, though, I am going to do more research to see if it might still be possible now to turn-off/reinstall MS Defender. They’ve really tightened up the security on Win11…
Time will tell.

#29

I just finished performing a clean installation of Windows 11 back on my main PC.

Well, as you indicated there was something going on with my AV/Anti-malware.
Although not 100% certain, I believe I’ve finally found the source of my pain.
Sometime in the distant past I installed an app called “DefenderUI”.

Apparently, this is why I was unable to turn off the Windows Defender when you asked me to.
I believe it was also somehow interfering with the normal operation of Jaikoz 12.4.
I’m all through testing/experimenting anymore as it’s working perfectly now and I still have tons of stuff to do to get my fresh, clean Windows 11 installation back to where it’s comfortable for me.

Here’s the link to that app, if you are interested in testing it, yourself.

DefenderUI Free - Download and install on Windows | Microsoft Store

Thank you for your patience!