Jaikoz on macOS Tahoe - empty white window

[jsibre]

Hey folks (@Paul) ,
I just upgraded my Mac to the “Tahoe” version (26.5) last night, and when I went to use Jaikoz today, it came up with a blank screen.
A little head scratching and searching revealed that a lot of apps are having trouble with the new Liquid Glass theme (I kinda am, too - not sold on it so far.)
Anyway, as per my favorite AI’s suggestion, I tried flipping from “Clear” to “Tinted” (System Setting | Appearance) and … well, that crashed system settings, and relaunches crashed immediately.

I then tried the command:
defaults write -g com.apple.SwiftUI.DisableSolarium -bool YES
to allegedly “stop using the new Liquid Glass compositor”. That followed by a reboot got System Settings working, and Jaikoz visible again.

Just sharing in case it happens to others - I didn’t see any notes here after a quick search.

This was using 12.6 Elastica, FYI.

I’m not too worried about the liquid glass effect being disabled, it seemed to make odd things sluggish as it generated icons, or something, so… good riddance. But I imagine this will become a more common with time.

[paultaylor]

Hi, thanks for the info. Apple does generally cause alot more problems for developers than Windows and Linux, I will try this out myself tommorrow.

[paultaylor]

Hi, I have just upgraded my MacAir M1 to Tahoe 26.5 with the default settings and I’m not encountering any issues, I also tried changing Apple:System Settings:Apperance:Liquid Glass from Clear to Tinted and that did not cause issues either.

But could you please run Advanced:Create Support Files because it is likley to be something in the logs to indicate what went wrong on your system.

[jsibre]

Ok, I’ve just done that, but it’s not suffering the problem at this moment - if you need me to put it back in the broken state, and THEN generate the support files, let me know.

From what I’ve read, not everyone is having these problem (they go beyond just Jaikoz, obviously). It’s an M1 Max Mac Studio, so, not brand new, but not ancient either. 3-4 years old?

To be clear - don’t drive yourself nuts chasing this It sounds like Tahoe is just flaky for some people, and I do get the sense that for the people that it causes a problem with, it’s widespread (sluggishness, crashy apps, etc), and for others, everything is fine. That suggests to me it’s probably NOT a bug or missing update in Jaikoz - probably a problem in Tahoe and how it’s interacting with my system. Disabling Liquid Glass as much as I can is helping a lot (not sure it’s completely solved everything, but fingers crossed.)

The last thing I did (for benefit of others who may find this due to similar problems) is go into System Settings | Accessibility | Display, and toggle “Reduce Transparency” ON. That seemed to disable most/all of the remaining ‘eye candy’. Since then, (and a reboot), everything feels functional and reasonably performant. But it has only been < 24 hours, so, it’s early yet.

[paultaylor]

Thanks for the support files, they include the period when you had this issue however there are not any stack traces/errrors, there is nothing to indicate there was an issue. So for now I’ll just leave this and keep an eye on anyone else having an issue

One thought, do you have external monitor, and any scaling options enabled?

If you can reproduce error a screenshot would be useful.

[jsibre]

Yes - it’s Studio Display (connected via thunderbolt).

As for the reproduce… no. Apparently not at this moment. I just reverted the three changes I’d made, rebooted, and Jaikoz is coming up fine. I’ll try again in a bit and see. I also noticed yesterday that when Google Maps was very sluggish in Firefox, a restart of Firefox (along with dinking with settings) seemed to resolve it (temporarily, at least).

I’ll try again in a bit, but for now, here’s what I think it looked like (attached) - but in this case, I got the screenshot by grabbing it after the window popped up, but before it painted. Lucky click, basically. I’d noticed that right now, even though it’s coming up ok, it does stall for a second on a plain blank gray window. But then it paints all the controls, and it’s fine.