SongKong Jaikoz

SongKong and Jaikoz Music Tagger Community Forum

I've tried it out, I think I'm ready to buy but I gotta know

#1

The one thing I do need it to do is load my whole library so I can check for dupes while sorting(at least I hope I can)
how do I increase the memory, I tried finding the jaikos.sh but had no luck.
I’m looking to sort 26k+ tracks.

I was using a free program instead of this one, but found it crash prone and irritating past the first 100 albums done manually. The demo rocked so far, but I just need to know that it’ll load my whole library.

Also, where does jaikos get Genre info? it seems to set genres to ****

and lastly although not really important, how do I get itunes to display the lyrics embedded in the ID3 tag?

Thanks

Looking forward to getting rid of all the track 1, track 2 artist unknown files in itunes from before I understood how to rip my cd’s.

#2

[quote=StrawberryWeasels]I’m looking to sort 26k+ tracks.

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I assume you are using a mac, 26,000 files should be okay if you increase the memory although as you load more and more files some things might slow down a little. You have to increase the memory as follows

Close Down jaikoz
Go to where you installed Jaikoz
Show popup, and select ‘Show Package Contents’
Go into Contents/
Select popup on Info.plist and choose Open With Other…
Select Application/TextEdit
Find the line that says -Xms64m -Xms300m
Increase the value of Xms to the value you require I would recommend
-Xms1000m
Start Jaikoz
Check you have made the change correctly by looking at the first lines in the console tab this will show the memory settings.

It can get them from Musicbrainz or Discogs if the Musicbrainz track has a link to a Discogs release. Genres is a very subjective issue, genres are a bit scare in the Musicbrainz database at the moment but Discogs have a much more organized systejm than the chaos which is Last.fm

in Itunes the lyrics are on 3rd tab when you select GetInfo. I guess you mean how do you get the lyrics to display in iTunes for the currently playing song ? I dont know, I guess there must be a iTunes plugin available (you can display on an ipod by triple clicking whilst a song is playing)

#3

Nope, sorry I should have mentioned, I’m running vista:(
wish I had a mac still:)

EDIT: one question, is there any way to see what was changed, I found with the free musicbrainz program, it often made bad changes, for example if the album name was wrong, it would just edit the title to match that track # from the album. Being able to double check it’s acuracy really saved me from messed up tags.

or would I be better off just running automatic correct but adding get acoustic ID as the first step?

#4

[quote=StrawberryWeasels]Nope, sorry I should have mentioned, I’m running vista:(
wish I had a mac still:)
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Oh, okay on Vista do the following:
Find the Jaikoz.exe shortcut in your Start menu,
Right click and select ‘Properties’
Edit the value in target using the -JmaxHeap parameter. For example if the target field currently contains C:\Program Files\Jthink\Jaikoz\jaikoz.exe", change to C:\Program Files\Jthink\Jaikoz\jaikoz.exe" -Jmaxheap=1000000000 sets the max memory to 1 gigabyte.
Start Jaikoz
Check you have made the change correctly by looking at the first lines in the console tab this will show the memory settings.

Select View/Show View pane this splits the screen showing the files as they are currently on disk at the top and your modifications at the bottom that will be applied if you save chnages at the bottom, changes fields should be highlighted if Preferences/Table/Synchronization/Highlight chnages in different colour is enabled.

Do you mean AutoCorrect or Auto Correct tags from musicbrainz because by default AutoCorrect does Get Acoustic Ids and AutoCorrect from Musicbrainz. I would always recommend running Get Acoustic Ids for the best results however you do it.

#5

Ok bought it, thanks:)

the only issue I’m having now is that I get tons of loading errors, none of my WMA files loaded it seems, is there a plugin I need to download or something?
Thanks.

#6

Please install the fix available from http://www.jthink.net/jaikoz/jsp/fixes/start.jsp

#7

[quote]
Do you mean AutoCorrect or Auto Correct tags from musicbrainz because by default AutoCorrect does Get Acoustic Ids and AutoCorrect from Musicbrainz. I would always recommend running Get Acoustic Ids for the best results however you do it.[/quote]

Sorry, I mean positions in the list of manipulators when I run Autocorrect.

what step first second and third etc, I just didn’t understand why it would correct a bunch of stuff then get acoustic ID, then musicbrainz as steps lower on the list?(I’m assuming it starts from the top of the list)

#8

[quote=StrawberryWeasels]
what step first second and third etc, I just didn’t understand why it would correct a bunch of stuff then get acoustic ID, then musicbrainz as steps lower on the list?(I’m assuming it starts from the top of the list)[/quote]
Sorry tasks such as ‘Correct Artist’ are Local corrects that use pattern matching techniques and perform formatting such as capitlisation, they are done to get the data in better shape for the remote matching. I should rename them to ‘Local Artist Correct’ (this issue has come up once before)

#9

I’m still not really clear, should I correct the metadata locally and then have it try and analyze it?

I though I should have it correct the tags from musicbrainz and music ip, then have it run the local corrections. Should I be doing that the other way around?
I thought it actually analyzed the song itself and produced a PUID for matching against the server?
because a lot of my tracks have no metadata at all, so I was hoping to actually correct that.
If it doesn’t, should I run Picard and scan all the files to create the PUID, then import into jaikos and use that to match?

#10

Hi, did you read my reply on this post http://www.jthink.net/jaikozforum/posts/list/752.page.

Picard doesnt do anything that Jaikoz doesnt do, its just setup slighty different.
Picard
Scan Retrieves PUIDs from MusicIP and then looks them up in Musicbrainz and it finds a match fixes the metadata.
Lookup looks for a match from Musicbrainz based purely on the Metadata, ignoring any PUIDs that might have been found.

Jaikoz
Retrieve Acoustic Ids gets PUIDs from MusicIP and stores it in the file
Autocorrect Tags from Musicbrainz looks for a match from Musicbrainz based on the PUID and/or Metadata.

So you need to run [b]Retrieve Acoustic Ids[b] and THEN Autocorrect Tags from Musicbrainz . When/if you run local correcters is less important but I would run them first.