iTunes updating large volume of songs every time I sync my iPhone

[desbiss]

Hi all,

For some reason, whenever I sync my iPhone it updates songs (approx 300 each time) that had been previously synced with this iPhone. I have made no changes with Jaikoz to the versions of the songs that are on the phone so I am not sure why this is happening…

Recently, I removed all the music from the iPhone and then re-synced all of it after using Jaikoz to update my entire music library. Things seemed to be fine for one or two iPhone syncs (no song updates during sync). Today, when I synced my iPhone it did it again - updated 295 of my songs (that had no new changes done via Jaikoz). Interestingly, I haven’t even opened Jaikoz to make a single change to any of my music since the aforementioned time that I used Jaikoz to update my entire music library…

Any thoughts on why this is happening?
Are my songs getting updated by Jaikoz without my even opening the program. If so, it seems odd that it is always a similar amount (near 300)…

Or, do I have something set incorrectly with Jaikoz? I noticed in my music folders that there is an alias created for each song file (presumably created by Jaikoz), not sure if this has something to do with this or not…

My operating sustem is Mac OSX 10.6.2

Thanks in advance.

[wynlyndd]

I have gotten this before even after no changes for awhile. It seems (to me) iTunes will keep track of files that have been updated and will batch them out to do stuff like sound check or gap check.

[desbiss]

So theoretically, a point in time should come when no updates occur while syncing the iPhone? Oddly, I sync mine every day or so - I’d expect iTunes would catch up after a few syncs as I only have 1000 (approx) songs in my music library. Problem is that the 300(ish) song update is still occuring each time I sync my iPhone. Did yours stop after a while???

When I look in my album folders it appears that Jaikoz is creating an alias file for each song. Could this have something to do with the massive number of songs that are syncing?

Thanks…

[desbiss]

So theoretically, a point in time should come when no updates occur while syncing the iPhone (pending no new Jaikoz song updates)? Oddly, I sync mine every day or so - I’d expect iTunes would catch up after a few syncs as I only have 1000 (approx) songs in my music library. Problem is that the 300(ish) song update is still occuring each time I sync my iPhone. Did yours stop after a while???

When I look in my album folders it appears that Jaikoz is creating an alias file for each song. Could this have something to do with the massive number of songs that are syncing?

Thanks…

[paultaylor]

Do you have ‘Preferences/Advanced/Copy Files to ITunes Media Folder when adding to Library’ set in Itunes

If so are you opening files in Jaikoz from the wrong place, i.e their original location rather then the copy already in iTunes ?

[desbiss]

I have set ‘Preferences/Advanced/Copy Files to ITunes Media Folder when adding to Library’ unchecked in Itunes. My problem persists… Help, anyone?

[paultaylor]

desbiss I need alot more detail

1. Send me your Jaikoz support files (Advanced Create Support Files)
2. Show me some Finder or Terminal screenshots showing these duplicates

[desbiss]

Hi,

Sorry for the delayed response. I have attached the Support file as requested as well as a screen shot of some of the duplicate alias files I have referred to…

I greatly appreciate your help with this. This morning, when I synced my iPhone; iTunes updated approx 500 songs …and I have only used Jaikoz to make changes to one or two songs since the iPhone’s last sync with iTunes.

I no longer have “Keep iTunes Media Folder Organized” or “Copy files to iTunes Media folder when adding to library” checked off in iTunes/Preferences/Advanced. I have had these unchecked for quite a while now.

Much appreciated,
Des

[desbiss]

For some reason I am unable to attach the screen shot and support files. The below info appears when I attempt to attach it…

type Exception report

message

description The server encountered an internal error () that prevented it from fulfilling this request.

exception

java.lang.NullPointerException
\tnet.jforum.JForumExecutionContext.enableRollback(JForumExecutionContext.java:272)
\tnet.jforum.JForum.service(JForum.java:209)
\tjavax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:802)
\tnet.jforum.util.legacy.clickstream.ClickstreamFilter.doFilter(ClickstreamFilter.java:59)
note The full stack trace of the root cause is available in the Apache Tomcat/5.0.27 logs.

[paultaylor]

Hi please just email me the files to support at jthink dot net

EDITED:Oh you have done already

[desbiss]

Thanks Paul.

Will wait to hear back from you. Appreciate your help.

Aside from this hiccup, I think Jaikoz is a great product.

Thanks,
Des

[paultaylor]

Hi Des Ive looked at your logs and there is nothing obvious, but I think the problem is something to do with the aliases.

However if you have a look at the datestamps on the screenshots all the alias files are 2009 i.e. BEFORE you used Jaikoz so when were they created. BTW the only time Jaikoz creates aliases is when you run Delete Duplicates and you have the settings configured to convert the deleted file to an alias to the original file instead of doing an outright delete, but you are not even using Delete Duplicates.

This is what I think is happening at some point in the past you added some files to iTunes, you also indirectly created some aliases to these files. You then later on correct the original files in Jaikoz, you dont seem to be using the rename feature in Jaikoz but perhaps you still had the option enabled in iTunes that renamed/moved files based on their metadata at this point and as part of this the files get renamed, but the aliases still point to the old file. The iphone trys to sync both the original file and the alias ?

Do yo need the aliases , if it was me I would delete all the aliases and try and figure out where they came from in the first place so they don’t reappear.

[wynlyndd]

Also see this thread :

http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1108426

[desbiss]

Hi Paul,

Sorry for the delayed response. I think I know why the alisases are there… I use Drive Genius and suspect it had created the aliases… Not sure how to go about finding these files for deletion…

Thanks