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How to manually change the genre for all files within an folder in one batch?

#21

Thanks again for your effort.

Wish a nice holiday with many beautiful impressions and without thoughts of “programs”.

At the moment I don’t enjoy thinking about this problem here. Because I have in my flat about 30�C and the thinking is there really slow. . .

Maybe in a week, we can make a fresh start.

Only that much - with the Roxette album, I found a setting that handles the genre field:
For this purpose I have entered “Pop” in the field Genres -> allowed genres. Now the field is replaced with the value, which is also stored in the Discogs database for this album. Just as I expected.

Is it true that the genre, which is entered in the Discogs database for any album must also be entered in the Genres -> allowed genres field exactly like this?
How do I achieve it, that different spellings - example: classique, classical, etc. are replaced in the entry “Klassik”.

Still nothing happens with the other example album by (Anne Sophie von Otter). If I check the SK-Report, it looks as if there is one equivalent only at MusicBrainz. Does this mean that then nothing is filled in / replaced?

Is there another option for this?

An answer after your vacation is absolutely sufficient!

Nice holiday and greetings!
highresi

#22

It is correct that Pop needs to be in the list of allowable genres, but it should already be there near the end, it is not under ‘P’ to allow more specific Pop genres to be matched first.

Yes, this is to protect against nonsense genres, and to match multiple genres to one genre you do as follows:

Classique;Klassik;
Classical;Klassik;

Yes, because Muiscbrainz doesn’t support Genres, it foes have folksonomy tags but currently they are a complete mess and of little help for genre classidfication.

#23

Thank you for the clarification.
Unfortunately I haven’t yet understood what the position / order of genres within the list “allowed genres field” is important for. What and how can I “control” with it?

If it is cooler again I will probably have to experiment a little bit. . .

greetings
highresi

#24

[quote=highresi]Thank you for the clarification.
Unfortunately I haven’t yet understood what the position / order of genres within the list “allowed genres field” is important for. What and how can I “control” with it?[/quote]
Okay so if Discogs has three genres associated with an album and you have Jaikoz configured to just use one (the default) then it will use the one that comes first in the genre list.

#25

287/5000
Using the example of (Anne Sophie von Otter)
What is the correct syntax in the “allowed genres field” if:
the album is not at Discogs
the genre field is “Classique”
But I want to have only the genre “Klassik”

So it should be exchanged the existing entry Classique into Klassik …

Classique;Klassik;
Classical;Klassik;
doesn’t work

There was another question:
As an example - the album . . . But Seriously by Phil Collins
is found by Songkong in Discogs and MusicBrainz.

However, in two different versions - it can only be ONE right? ?!?

Which one of them is right now and after which SK decides which entry is transferred to the tags? ?

Thanks again for your patience
highresi

#26

[quote=highresi]287/5000
Using the example of (Anne Sophie von Otter)
What is the correct syntax in the “allowed genres field” if:
the album is not at Discogs
[/quote]
If its not in Discogs then SongKong will leave the existing genre alone. The genre list is only applied when adding genres/styles from Discogs.

You mean the Discogs version represents a different version to the MusicBrainz one, in what way ? - if you could send your support files I can see more clearly.

Well most releases are released in many different versions in different countries, when we match to a MusicBrainz match we use the linked the Disocgs match if there is one, but if there is not we do an independent search for a Disocgs one.

The Discogs one should not different in key areas such as the track listing, but there may be small differences in some details that dont really matter for tagging such as Country of release or date of release. After all if the same release is released in two countries there is no way for SongKong to actually know which version you have, but it woudl score releases form your preferred country list higher.

But having matched from MusicBrainz, a Disocgs match only adds additional data (such as missing Catalogue no) to your metadata , it doesnt overwrite metadata. So SongKong writes Musicbrainz Data + Discogs data that does n’t conflict with MusicBrainz data.

#27

Is it possible to replace the genre with Jaikoz?
As I imagine it from the example of (Anne Sophie von Otter)

For Phil Collins I have created a “support file”.
The two search results differ in the source.

The tracklist is indeed identical.
I just wondered, because I thought that every
Album by the “fingerprint” is unique

Thanks und greetings
highresi

#28

[quote=highresi]Is it possible to replace the genre with Jaikoz?
As I imagine it from the example of (Anne Sophie von Otter)
[/quote]
Yes you can do either autamated or manual editing.

[quote]
I just wondered, because I thought that every
Album by the “fingerprint” is unique
Thanks und greetings
highresi[/quote]
Fingerprints are at recording level, so different versions of the same recording will have different fingerprints but the same version will have same fingerprint. If yo think about it the logic is slightly fuzzy anyway since if you rip a CD to Mp3 and Wav the audio is not going to be identical but you want both to have the same AcoustId.

In your case there is no link from MusicBrainz to Discogs so the Discogs match has been found independently. You can disable independent Discogs by disabling Search for a Discogs Match on the Match tab.

#29

Am I getting this right?
Jaikoz is able to automatically add / replace a genre from sources other than discogs. (in case discogs has no entry).

In addition, Jaikoz can automatically replace entries like “classique” to “klassik”.

Would this already work in the trial version?

Thanks and greetings
highresi

#30

[quote=highresi]Am I getting this right?
Jaikoz is able to automatically add / replace a genre from sources other than discogs. (in case discogs has no entry).
[/quote]
It can also get the from MusicBrainz, but since SongKong is more automated and MusicBrainz Genres/Tags are generally poor we didnt add support for MusicBrainz Genres to SongKong.

Not within Genres, as Jaikoz only has blacklist rather than grey list.

But it does Find/Replace functionality that can be used to do this.
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Yes trial is fully operational except there is just a limit of 20 actual file saves.

#31

The more I deal with SK, the more enthusiastic I am - just as I am about the extraordinary support - thank you!

I’m going to experiment with my music database.
Surely then new questions will arise :wink:

Greetings
highresi