Help, can't retrieve a song that exists in the MB database.

[pete321]

I’ve been playing around with the program lately, it’s nice but for some reason it’s only about 70% accurate in terms of results, this wouldn’t be that bad since the manual search manages to clean up most of these problems quickly with a little work.

But for some songs it just can’t seem to get it at all, even though they exist on MusicBrainz, this is a problem imo.

Maybe I’m doing something wrong, but I’ll use an example that if I could get working, it should help with others like it.

It’s a song on the Casino OST disc 2, called Compared To What by Les McCann & Eddie Harris.

I used acoustic ID, I played around with the score scales, I renamed the name of the song to be case sensitive so it reads like it does on the DB but still it will not find it, it finds other releases of the song, even in manual search.

Is there some way to tell the program to make a connection with the rest of the soundtrack (which is identified correctly for the most part), so that it can point that song to the soundtrack too? Is that what cluster does? In Picard you can drag and drop from the wrong releases to the right one and it seems to work, this would be very useful in Jaikoz.

Thanks for any help.

[paultaylor]

[quote=pete321]It’s a song on the Casino OST disc 2, called Compared To What by Les McCann & Eddie Harris.
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I think it is due to an issue with Musicbrainz expecting a case match on certain words.

if it was ‘Compared to What’ it would work.
See
http://www.jthink.net/jaikozforum/posts/list/428.page
and
http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/3741#

this was due to be fixed by Musicbrainz some time ago but unfortunately
they cannot roll out the fix because of another issue.

Is there some way to tell the program to make a connection with the rest of the soundtrack (which is identified correctly for the most part), so that it can point that song to the soundtrack too?

Yes, enter the correct value into the Songs Musicbrainz Id, then run ‘Update tags from Existing musicbrainz Id’ to update all the other fields based on that Id.

Is that what cluster does?

No cluster looks for songs from albums with same name but different musicbrainz releases and trys to use the same release if it can. This wouldn’t work for you because you have matched to a completely different album.

In Picard you can drag and drop from the wrong releases to the right one and it seems to work, this would be very useful in Jaikoz.

Maybe, but can’t envisage a UI for this at the moment because Jaikoz is very much track based whereas Picard is very much release based.

[pete321]

Thanks, manually entering the songs Musicbrainz ID worked for identifying it.

Just curious is there some way to mass do this? For example if a 20 song release has 5 songs that are not found but exist on MB? Can you enter the album ID or something like that or do you have to do it on a song by song basis?

[paultaylor]

yes, I was going to tell you this but thjought it might be confusing.

If the ‘MB Unique Id’ field is left empty, and you enter the same Release id value into the ‘MB Release Id’ of the five tracks and then do ‘Update tags from Musicbrainz’ it will try to use the release id to identify the suitable track for of that release for each of the songs.

It does this by looking at the track title, track no and track length so at least some of these need to be correct for this to work.

[darkfader]

For some tracks I want to auto-tag, it chooses the MB release ID I want, but for others, I chooses another (because title matches romanized release). Is there a way to automatically tag these by forcing an MB release ID onto the other tracks?

[paultaylor]

Use Update tags from Musicbrainz which updates from info from MB Unique ID/MB Release Id rather than Autocorrect Tags from Musicbrainz which disregards any existing ids and matches based on metadata and acoustic id.