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Best settings for Jaikoz to find maximum possible involved people?

#1

I’m looking to get as many participants as possible picked up in the “involved people” field for as many songs as possible. I would like this to be a permanent part of each file.

Under “remote correct” I have checked off “prefer do not match to various artist compilations” and “do not match to single artist compilations” as well as “prefer to match albums instead of singles and EP’s”. I have vinyl checked off as the preferred media format. I have likewise checked off “earliest release date”.

My thought was that there is generally more information on credits given on Discogs and Musicbrainz with an album done by the specific artist as opposed to either compilations or singles.

Jaikoz does do a great job in picking this up. On the other hand, if I can adjust my settings so it can do even a little better that would be just super.

Please help me to gain a little more understanding as to how Jaikoz actually picks up the “involved people” information.

Thanks so much in advance for your time and consideration.

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#2

I think this is the wrong way to think about things, you should be wanting to match your tracks to the release that best matches your tracks, in some case this will have the most involved people and sometimes it will not.

Your logic that original releases will have more details than compilations is correct but if you actually have the compilation isnt this what you want to match to?

#3

In terms of my digital collection, Paul, I am actually documenting it as per the original 45 RPM hit release in all cases. I do have a very compelling reason for doing that.

In reading between the lines, it looks like you are confirming for me that an “album” by the artist is more likely to have complete info than a 45 RPM release. When I am getting good “involved people” information, Jaikoz is hitting the “right” release in either MusicBrainz or Discogs?

I have the manipulators set to correct Metadata from MusicBrainz first, then correct Data from Discogs. Is there anything else I should be doing there to optimize the likelihood of getting good “involved people” pickup?

If Jaikoz has found a match in MusicBrainz which doesn’t include “involved people”, will the subsequent search in Discogs likely fill that in? Do I understand correctly that if some information is missing in MusicBrainz, the Discogs search will fill it in?

Do you have any further thoughts on this?

One more question. The “Roon” information is not permanently recorded within the file? Or is it?

Thanks a lot for chiming in here.

#4

Not really, im saying better than a compilation album because whoever adde dthe compilation to MusicBrainz may not be particulary interested in all the artists on that compilation. Whereas if it is an original album , Single or EP may well have all the details. Involved People are firstly added from MusicBrainz, if the release is linked to a Discogs release it may add addtional information from Discogs but it will not replace information. For example if a producer role was already added by MusicBrainz, and Discogs had a different or additional person as producer then Jaikoz would not add it. But if it had a trumpet role, and MusicBrainz did not have that then it would add it.

Yes, hopefully.

If you mean information added by Roon then no Roon never adds information to the files themselves.

#5

You’ve told me exactly what I needed to know. Thank you so much. You rock, Sir!!!

#6

Just remembered something else, if you have a match to Discogs then all credits are added to the Credits field. This is free text fields and includes credits we were not able to parse and add to the InvolvedPeople, typically includes non performer roles such as photography or art design. So if this was of interest to you you could use Scripter task to extract info from this field and add it to InvolvedPeople field.

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