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Artwork added to mp3-file only PNG?

I’m wondering that Jaikoz adds artwork to a file as PNG and not as JPG. Isn’t it possible to add an artwork as JPG?
Reason: the imported artwork has a much greater size than the JPG-file in the folder, from where it’s loaded.
Example: I have the same picture one as JPG with a size of 188554 Bytes resolution 703x703, the other one as PNG with a size of 11236221 Bytes resolution 703x703 (of course the PNG looks sharper).
But when I load both artworks with the artwork-editor (Update Images), the JPG file is loaded as PNG with a filesize of 1041489 bytes and the PNG file with a filesize of 1171298.
Now if I use the command Save Artwork to Filesystem, I get only one JPG file with a filesize of 139138 Bytes -[color=blue] but where is the other picture??? - is that a bug?[/color] And the picture looks as bad as im using in Jaikoz Cntrl + U to see the artwork.

Another example (another artwork):
It’s interesting, when I get the artwork automatically from MusicBrainz it’s inserted as JPG with a size of 19110 Bytes. If I use cut/paste to add this artwork in the edit-window of Jaikoz, it’s added as PNG with a size of 208015 Bytes!!!

[quote=Alfg]Another example (another artwork):
It’s interesting, when I get the artwork automatically from MusicBrainz it’s inserted as JPG with a size of 19110 Bytes. If I use cut/paste to add this artwork in the edit-window of Jaikoz, it’s added as PNG with a size of 208015 Bytes!!![/quote]

In this case when matching from Musicbrainz the the name of the file on the Internet is provided to Jaikoz so it just copies it byte for byte and stores it in your music file, whereas when using cut and paste it is presented to Jaikoz as an ‘Image’ with no details of the original source image and Jaikoz then converts this ‘Image’ to a format. It uses PNG rather than JPG because its more reliable , Jpeg format is a bit buggy.

Having said that I can see why you wouldn’t want the image to grow tenfold and there are probably some improvements I can make.

Huh, you’re right. Are you using any resizing?

I just looked at some of my latest Jaikozed files and they’re all PNG. I resize to just under 500px, so what I do is find a large (usually JPG) 600, 800, 900 whatever and drag it in and let Jaikoz shrink it down. The same thing happens when they come from MB. This gives it some fake detail in a small image.

Do you have an issue with PNGs? There are some key differences between JPGs and PNGs (which are a version of BMPs): JPGs are a lossy, compressed format which works well in large photographs with smooth colors and keeps the filesize down a bit; PNGs are bitmapped so they are good at fine detail and lineart and the like, at a higher size cost.

I didn’t realize this was happening, but I’m glad they’re PNGs and it explains why shrinking them turns out a small detailed image.

Nothing against PNG-files.
But it seems to me that a JPG-file is much better readable (back cover) than this JPG-file imported in Jaikoz and converted to PNG, which is then about 5 to 10 times the size of the original JPG-file.
@dkoh, try it with a back cover of a CD.

Now I see how it works.
If the JPG-file resolution (pixel) is below the adjusted “Resize artwork if dimension is larger than (pixels)” then the JPG file is loaded in the Jaikoz Artwork editor (Update Images) as JPG, otherwise it’s converted to PNG.
That brings me to the solution, always to convert a JPG file below the “Resize artwork if dimension is larger than (pixels)” and then import it to Jaikoz.

I don’t understand the difference with a back cover. Are you making them giant to see all the small text? They come in for me just like any other cover.

The resize slider goes all the way up to 2200px, are you making images larger than that? I haven’t tried it, but I assume if you crank it up, most images should come through unmolested.

The reason why I mentioned the back cover is, that on the back cover usually there is the song list, which should be readable after adding the back-cover file to Jaikoz. The “Resize artwork if dimension is larger than (pixels)” is set to 700 - in my case -, but if a JPG file is converted to PNG in Jaikoz, you can’t read the titles anymore, when they were just readable in JPG.

Yeah, I see what you mean now. Just tried it with this and the little stuff became unreadable.

@dkoh,
now I use PhotoResize http://www.rw-designer.com/picture-resize, which was suggested here in the discussion forum with the options PhotoResize700Q100NR, to convert all JPG covers to a size just below “Resize artwork if dimension is larger than (pixels)” and import this JPG file to Jaikoz. It works perfectly :smiley: