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Help With Rename Masks?

is there a variable for the disc subtitle name? (%discsubtitle% in picard)? I don’t see it in the overall list.

thanks!

Hi, no there isn’t, but the disc subtitle is added to the release title if set in

Preferences/Remote Correct/Format/Multi Disc Releases

so you could extract it from the title if you wanted.

[quote=paultaylor]Hi, no there isn’t, but the disc subtitle is added to the release title if set in

Preferences/Remote Correct/Format/Multi Disc Releases

so you could extract it from the title if you wanted.[/quote]

Ah, but I still haven’t figured out how to “extract” information from variables, I’d like to be able to do the same with the date to extract the year.

is there a chance that disc subtitles could get it’s own variable?

thanks!

I think there is an example for this somewhere. Alterntaively if you are happy for the only the year to be displayed in the metadata as well as the filename you can just set Preferences:Local Correct:Year Correct:What Should the Year Contain to Store Year

Actually why do you want to extract it out, if it has been put into the title why don’t you use that. For me to give it its own variable there would have to be a Jaikoz field for that data to be stored in, and at the moment that information either gets added to release title or just gets thrown away after a match to Musicbrainz.

I suppose I could add it as it appears to be one of the few fields that can be stored seperately in Picard but not Jaikoz.

[quote=paultaylor][quote=TinCanFury]
Ah, but I still haven’t figured out how to “extract” information from variables, I’d like to be able to do the same with the date to extract the year.
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I think there is an example for this somewhere. Alterntaively if you are happy for the only the year to be displayed in the metadata as well as the filename you can just set Preferences:Local Correct:Year Correct:What Should the Year Contain to Store Year
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ah, yes, sorry, the
string.substring(from, to)

command. so I’d assume, year.substring(0,4)

it looks to work in the editor example mask, but I don’t trust it for a few reasons, I don’t believe that entry has enough data to really test some “obscure” things in the tags, and I really do not like U2.
But ignoring my second reason, I’d like to propose an improvement to this tab, A) use an entry with more “full” metadata like:
http://musicbrainz.org/release/e4c0a2dc-49cb-382b-9bb3-a40d09669583
which has multiple discs, a full date, and disc subtitles.
for compilations, something like:
http://musicbrainz.org/release/42de9718-7009-4008-b4b5-d95b0973023d
which has all the above and is a various artist release.
OR, better yet but possibly more difficult to implement, put a field just above the example masks where the user can insert the musicbrainz or discogs release identifier and the mask will operate on the metadata for that specific release.

[quote=paultaylor][

Actually why do you want to extract it out, if it has been put into the title why don’t you use that. For me to give it its own variable there would have to be a Jaikoz field for that data to be stored in, and at the moment that information either gets added to release title or just gets thrown away after a match to Musicbrainz.

I suppose I could add it as it appears to be one of the few fields that can be stored seperately in Picard but not Jaikoz.


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Here’s the format I’d like for my releases:

Album Artist/[year] Album Name/disc 1: disc subtitle/
so for instance:
The Smashing Pumpkins/[1995] Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness/disc 1: Dawn to Dusk/

The Smashing Pumpkins/[1995] Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness/disc 2: Twilight to Starlight/

I also don’t like my filenames to be too long, preferring track number and track title as being the only info “left” to be stored in the overall path+filename.

This partly has to due with how my HTPC system’s music player organizes itself, but also how I like to be able to browse through my music folders on a PC. If I want to listen to the entirety of a multi-disc album I need to select the main directory for that album and have the discs organized by directory under it to have it play through all in order. BUT I also want to be able to play one disc only for albums where the second disc is things like outtakes, interviews, etc.

So, I could add the disc number to the filename, ie
disc-tr
1-01, 1-02, etc
2-01, 2-02, etc
3-01, 3-02, etc

which would let me play them in order without each disc having a sub-album, but it would not make it easy to not play one disc without the other(s).

From there, I figure, if I have each disc as a separate directory, it would be nice to be able to also have the disc’s subtitle as part of the directory name too. Since I can do this in Picard right now I use it for my final moving and renaming, but I would, of course, prefer to use Jaikoz.

thanks!

Heh I only picked U2 because it short and we have limited space.

Sounds like good ideas, if only I had unlimited resources …

[quote=TinCanFury]
From there, I figure, if I have each disc as a separate directory, it would be nice to be able to also have the disc’s subtitle as part of the directory name too. Since I can do this in Picard right now I use it for my final moving and renaming, but I would, of course, prefer to use Jaikoz.
thanks![/quote]
Understood, it will get added. In the meantime I suppose you could forgo disc subtitle without loss of function, but you would lose that disc subtitle information as I can see from your example you can’t put it into the main title.

yes, fair, but it does make the example mask less useful for all but the most simple cases.

just a proposal :wink: if using different sample metadata is possible, having is would make the example mask much more useful.

[quote=paultaylor]
Understood, it will get added. In the meantime I suppose you could forgo disc subtitle without loss of function, but you would lose that disc subtitle information as I can see from your example you can’t put it into the main title.[/quote]

I’ll just use Picard to move/name the files until I can do the same in Jaikoz. Do either Jaikoz or Picard store the disc subtitle anywhere in the music tags?

thanks!

Jaikoz doesnt apart from in the release title if desired (as explained above), I think Picard can store in a seperate field.

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Hi, Im really sorry i meant to reply to your query but accidently overwrote it and no longer have the original question, but my answer was the following:

There are two seperate masks defined, one of them for compilation albums, so cant you just use a different mask for the compilation albums.

[quote=paultaylor][quote=TinCanFury]
I’ll just use Picard to move/name the files until I can do the same in Jaikoz. Do either Jaikoz or Picard store the disc subtitle anywhere in the music tags?
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Jaikoz doesnt apart from in the release title if desired (as explained above), I think Picard can store in a seperate field.[/quote]

is there any intent to have Jaikoz support the discsubtitle field?

Yes it is planned

Support for discsubtitle (and subtitle) both added in Jaikoz 4.6 out today http://www.jthink.net/jaikozforum/posts/list/6710.page

awesome!
thanks!!